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Guestbook Archive

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jon van duinen - vrienduinen@hotmail.com - May 27, 2002

I am still testing this , but please feel free to try it out.

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Aaron & Alexis Volbeda - - June 3, 2002

Checked your site as soon as we received the email link. We just moved back to Corona, arrived yesterday afternoon. So glad to see you guys are doing good. It's been a long time Jon & we look forward to meeting you Deb. Good Luck on your travels! God Bless...

Just to let you know

Aaron Volbeda - - June 3, 2002

Just wanted to give you a heads up and let you know this guestbook is working fine for me and I'm using IE. Posted so many messages on by hitting the enter key while trying to hit the shift key. OOPS!!! :) Take Care!

Thoreau quotes

Dan Rinsema-Sybenga - dsrins_syb@bigfoot.com - June 6, 2002

Always enjoy checking out your site. Here was an interesting link I found today with quotes from Thoreau's Walden. Check it out. http://www.tcs.tifr.res.in/~pbhaduri/walden.html

some proof

deb van duinen - dvanduinen@hollandchristian.org - June 14, 2002

Jon has often accused me of rarely checking out our web page. I thought that writing in this guest book would be some nice proof that I do in fact look at it! :)

greetings and salutations

paulie verhoef - paulwtverhoef@hotmail.com - June 17, 2002

I don't have a lot to say (nor a lot of time to say it -- Tigchelaar family vacation awaits me up north). But I will let you in on a secret: I love you guys, and think you are amazing. I hope Monique and I can keep in touch during this next year with you world travelers.

Liz Tubergen - litespeedlizzie@hotmail.com - June 20, 2002

Hi Van Duinens! I just wanted to say that I hope your trip is great. Ms. Van Duinen- thanks for being such a great teacher I enjoyed your class alot. I bet you are already gone, but I didn't want to leave you a message before, during the school year, because you expressed concern with some of your students being on your personal web site. But now that it was in the paper, I guess you won't mind. What are those funny beer pictures anyway? The article in the paper was pretty good- I enjoyed it. :) Thanks again!

Matt Owens - - June 20, 2002

Have a good trip.

Thanks and safe travels!

Lisa Meiste - hercules_15@hotmail.com - June 21, 2002

Hope you have a wonderful trip and thanks so much for everything you have taught me the past two years... we will all miss you! Oh, and I loved the article in the newspaper :)

Hey!

Malia Volbeda - nala_rose@yahoo.com - June 26, 2002

Hey! I read the article in the newspaper about you! It was neat! Love you! Have a great trip and be safe! ~Malia

prayer support

Marge DeGroot - mmdg50@aol.com - July 2, 2002

Hi there! You're off ad running....9 days into you exciting venture! this is so great, and God will lead you to continue your lives in new and different ways as the result of your travels! Most importantly are your spiritual travels, which really will parallel the physical miles!

prayer support

Marge DeGroot - mmdg50@aol.com - July 2, 2002

Hi there! You're off ad running....9 days into you exciting venture! this is so great, and God will lead you to continue your lives in new and different ways as the result of your travels! Most importantly are your spiritual travels, which really will parallel the physical miles!

new ventures

margie DeGroot - mmdg50@aol.com - July 2, 2002

Hi! Well, I'm having some difficulty not losing you message....I started over 2 or 3 times, and it's late, so this is a short one...our plans are awesome! I'm so excited for you! I'm just starting a new journey myself....my Masters of Art...ha,ha! Actually, we talked about aesthetics....a bit similar to your worldview Deb! I just met a gal from Hawaii...Kawaii, specifically. Her daughter and son=in-law spent a year traveling...sometimes teaching English in places like Cambodia..etc. Anyway, God will lead you in many new ways which will forever become how He uses you for His Kingdom. I will pray for you..so please let me know your needs,as well as praises, ok? gtg now.,Margie and girls

saying hi

Mary DeYoung - mdeyoung@hope.edu - July 14, 2002

It's so fun that the Sentinel printed your website in the paper. We'll have to keep up with your yearly travels. Mike got a card from Mo and Paul this week. We are excited that they will be back in the area. God bless.

Ethical Questions

Guest Cynic - nospam@spam.com - July 15, 2002

You should check out urbanlegends.com because you are basing some of your life ideals on superstitions, especially the Coke boycott. I also find your "lifestyle" somewhat hypocritical as you pledge to devote your life to simple living, how can you in good conscience step foot on a plane (on your trip to Asia) that, during take off alone, will pollute more of the environment than 20 cars running continuously for 20 years? That is only your 1/300 share of the total pollution produced on your "simple lifestyle" trip. Seems kind of hypocritical to me, but then I am not preaching about a simple lifestyle. Why not take a ride on a ship? Ohh yea that would be a pollution producer too….I admire your convictions, but find your logic lacking..

Re: Cynical Guest

Dan Sybenga - dsrins_syb@bigfoot.com - July 17, 2002

I am a friend of Jon and Deb's and recently I read your comments on their web site cynically commenting on their "simple" lifestyle. I think you were a little out of line. I did check out urbanlegends.com and saw nothing to refute the idea that Coca-cola isn't more than an unhealthy waste of resources and a product completely founded on marketing hype. The main myth they seemed to be de-bunking was the idea that because of it's high acidic formula Coke could be used as a form of birth control. Nice try though. The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), an environmental group, did have some information on air travel and pollution but it did not seem as serious as you make it out. In the end they recommend using high-speed rail for shorter distances and lobbying your local politician to make environmental standards applicable to air travel. There was nothing suggesting anything like a boycott of air travel. And regarding your last claim that the air travel thing was just the 1/300th tip of the "simple living" trip iceberg, I'd like to know what you are basing that on. No details make it hard to refute, but they also make it hard to believe. Let me know what you think. I too am interested in simple living and know it is hard work and not that easy. But you gotta try and people who do try are worth admiring so be careful of what you say. Dan Sybenga

Ethical Questions

Guest Cynic - spam@nospam.com - July 23, 2002

Response: One Boeing 747 pacific flight uses 57,000 gallons of Jet A fuel, roundtrip = 114,000 gallons of fuel burned up, or dumped into the sea on final approach due to weight limitations. (www.boeing.com) Average car uses 6 gallons of fuel/week -> 312 gallons/year Thus 312 gallons x 20 years is only 6240 gallons Hyper high octane Jet A fuel is 18-20 times as environmentally damaging as burning 87 octane in a standard (post 1992 CAFE standards car). Especially since it is burned directly into the atmosphere, has no lead restrictions, and is not run through a catalytic converter or other pollution controls. That would not even take into effect the damage of directly dumping extra fuel into the atmosphere for landings. Thus the 114,000 gallons of fuel in a jet liner would be more than the equivalent of 2,052,000 gallons of 87 octane. 300 passengers x 6,240 gallons of 20yr gas use = 1,872,000 gallons of 87 octane. As for 20 cars running continuously for 20 years, that is even less 87 octane usage. At idle speed a 4cylinder engine will use only 0.5 gallons/hour * 24 hours/day * 365 days/yr * 20yrs * 20 cars = 1,752,000 gallons of 87 octane. The math is simple, but the conclusion is the same, simple living would avoid the airline industry entirely.

Re: Ethical Questions

Dan Sybenga - dsrins_syb@bigfoot.com - July 24, 2002

Dear Guest Cynic, I think you have somewhat of a case to make. Air travel is not one of the most environmental ways to travel because of fuel consumption and the correlating greenhouse emissions. But you are exaggerating the consequences. As is usual when there is conflict, there is a gulf between the two sides of the issue. However my reading of the situation is that your alarming, home-grown statistics fall outside even the somewhat radical fringe of airplane boycotters. First let's take a look at the airplane industry view. Since Boeing has a vested interest in people riding airplanes I don't imagine they are completely honest on this issue but they are one of the two sides. They state, "per passenger-mile, a Boeing airplane filled 75 percent to capacity is more fuel efficient than an automobile with a driver and single passenger. Only when the average car is carrying a driver and three or more passengers is it as fuel efficient as an airplane 75 percent full" (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/value/green.html) . Take it as you will but that is one side of the argument. On the other side are some environmental groups. The one I found most interesting on this issue was chooseclimate.org. This is a European group who took the Trans-Siberian Railway to the Kyoto Protocol talks rather than using a plane. This website has a very interesting calculator that measures fuel consumption and attempts to extrapolate the corresponding emissions based on some formulas (an extremely touchy proposition, which they admit). This quote sums up their findings "A simple "rule of thumb" to remember, is that a plane uses about as much fuel, and therefore produces about as much CO2, as would every passenger driving one car the same distance. So next time you're thinking of flying thousands of miles, think how much petrol you would need to put in a car to go so far. Since take-off uses a disproportionate amount of fuel, short-haul flights emit a bit more per passenger-kilometer, and long-haul flights a bit less." (http://www.chooseclimate.org/flying/emit.html) This sums up the more radical side of the environmentalist viewpoint and their statistics seem much different than the half-baked calculation you posit suggesting that one airplane ride uses the same amount of fuel as running a car for twenty years. As for fuel dumping I plugged a few searches into Google and got no hits besides a few emergency incidents. I'd be happy to be informed if dumping does indeed occur. The last thing I want to address is the idea that simple living would avoid flying altogether. Simple living doesn't have to mean staying at home not using any resources at all. For me simple living means whenever possible to do things in the most fundamental way possible. I still want to be an engaged liver though. And to engage this world means making compromises, something I do with trepidation, but do all the same. Thanks for pointing out the consequences of air travel. I will travel wiser about the reality, but haven't come to the point where I would stop because of the drawbacks. Dan Sybenga P.S. Guest Cynic, why do you hide behind a veil of secrecy??

hi travelers

jacquie zuidhof - zuidhof@shaw.ca - August 5, 2002

Type a message here.We are trusting that you are safe and sound in California and soon (today) to be in the air to your next place of destination. Right now you are in our prayers for safety and a deep sense of God's presence with you. What an amazing Father we have! Bon Voyage. Thinking of you with love, Jacquie (mom to some precious people). PS your web site is an inspiration to me. I have tried to set one up with our family but we've all kind of forgotten I think. This coming year I'll try again. Until we connect again, the Lord bless you.

Hello.....I guess

Jeremy Absher - Jeremy@svroswell.com - August 6, 2002

Just checking out your web site. I like it so far! Ummm, yea, I guess that's it. Praise God!

keep off you guymen

guyman - guymasn@yahoo.vcom - August 10, 2002

i don do here

April and Tom

April Bulthuis - april_bee45@hotmail.com - August 11, 2002

Hey Van Duinen! I hope your trip is going well! I am keeping you in my prayers. Tom emailed me your latest update and I found your site listed on it and decided to check it out. I hope your have an amazing time! We'll see you in 2003! April Bulthuis P.S. did you ever find anything cool at Old Navy haha

Umm.

Adam bultman - adamb@glaven.org - August 28, 2002

Wow, nice lifestyle change. Can't say I can do the same thing, but I'll be sure to wave if I drive by on my way to work (in Holland). Well, once you are back, if you aren't living somewhere else... Anyway, in order to assure your lifestyle, make sure this site is hosted on linux site running either perl or PHP. No IIS, no Coldfusion,. All open source. Finally, ditch the hotmail account, as it's another corporation (Microsoft, anyone?) There's lots of open source places that'll host for very cheap, and give you a lot more access. Viva linux.

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Hello, Ms. Van Duinen

Emily Velthouse - emv4@calvin.edu - September 19, 2002

Hey! I was hoping to find out something about how your trip was going, and can you imagine where I found it? In the Calvin Spark, which is sent to my dormroom and for some reason I read, which said how to find your site. I'm so glad I found it! I hope you're having a great time, and God bless you all, Love in Christ, Emily Velthouse P.S. I just watched the Royal Tenenbaums last weekend, and was quite confused. Have you seen it? EV

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hello

Laura Vander Ploeg - pookiesue86@hotmail.com - September 28, 2002

Hello Ms. Van Duinen(Vriend when I had you 2 years ago). I am not sure if you remember me but anyway, I hope you trip is going well and you are enjoying the great experience. Well I was looking for a place for homework but I found this so I thought I would just say hi. I am praying for you. God Bless, Laura Vander Ploeg

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Kim Veltman - kjv25@calvin.edu - September 30, 2002

Ms. VanDiunen, Hi How are you? Thinking about you and praying for you. In Christ, Kim Veltman

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Your SE Asia Web Page

Mike Barkhausen - deliverer92051@hotmail.com - December 17, 2002

Enjoyed your page, will now enjoy Vietnam in April/May '03, and am writing you here because EMAIL links from your SE Asia site are not working today (2200 hrs 16 Dec 02 PST, Calif.). Thanks to you and your group for what you wrote. Beefed-up entry/border crossing info would be nice. Am planning to travel southward from Kunming, down the Mekong. Had not really looked forward to Vietnam until reading your bits. Have a good trip home...All good things must end??? I don't think I believe that. Call me if you care to when you get back to Canada or North America, if that's where you're headed back to. I plan on leaving Calif mid March, using a backpack and probably purchasing a RTW ticket. I'd like to touch bases w/one of you fairly soon so that I'll be able to learn from some of your experiences. My toll free # in North America is 888-757-4220, http://captnmikes.com. Thanks again, Mike Barkhausen..........P.S. ANY RECENT TRAVELERS TO SE ASIA AND INDIA ARE WELCOME TO EMAIL OR CALL ME!!!!

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